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John Russo's picture

Well, Schenn is up. How will they waive Shelley? Will it be a cap hit?

Bense's picture

Yes.

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Geoff Mang's picture

I will cheer, possibly even tear. That photoshop was from the heart. I'll be surprised & disappointment if people boo.

Adam Pardes's picture

Also hoping for cheers. Some of the stuff he said post-trade was regrettable, but all-in-all I loved everything he did here.

George Prax's picture

Depends on whether they show him in an anti-cancer video or not.

Phil T's picture

He will be welcomed back like a King

John Russo's picture

90% cheers

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Phil T's picture

2 games in? Hard to tell.

Adam Pardes's picture

No dice. He'll be solid, but not Calder worthy. Early guesses are Larsson and RNH.

George Prax's picture

Calder? pfft. Hart, maybe.

Phil T's picture

I could see RNH winning it. What about Sheifele?

Bense's picture

Too many other players to beat him to it, safe bet to say no. He is a decent player, but I don't see his ceiling being all that high. Plus he is used to playing 40 games a season... we should see similar drop to his game as JVR's in years past. That being said, he is 25 instead of 21ish when JVR started.. Who knows?

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scowpert's picture

Prongers inability to skate backwards.

Phil T's picture

Jagr + Giroux

Bense's picture

Defense (after first period) + goal tending

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George Prax's picture

9 and he goes down. The Flyers are stacked up front, no reason to rush him.

Mark Trible's picture

I think he'll stick, call me crazy but I think he'll grow more in the NHL than the Q.

George Prax's picture

You're obviously the expert lol. But from personal experience I find it's best to take it easy with these kids. That said, Tyler Seguin has a cup ring at 19 lol.

Bense's picture

^ Agree completely. Why send him back to a league he already dominates? Sure he has to beef up, but so far he seems to have the smarts to make up for it. Defensively sound!

George Prax's picture

But just because he's too good for the Q doesn't mean he's good enough for the NHL. Keep in mind that he can't go to Adirondack. The Habs went through this exact thing with Latendresse a few years back. Too good for Junior, not good enough for the NHL, ineligible for the minors. In cases like that, it might be best to have a player in the Juniors, where he can at least learn to be a big fish in a little pond as well as get some more international experience. And I know he missed some games, but the dude was barely the leading scorer on his team even. I know less than you guys do but it seems to me like there's still stuff left for him to do in Drummondville.

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I hear you, I really do. I have only seen him play in the rookie game and all 6 of the pre-seaon games he was in (actually I think one didn't make the webcast, so 5).

Truth is, mentally he is already beyond most NHL players in terms of vision and being in the right place at the right time. His skills are adequate enough at the NHL level because of this. The only thing he lacks is more size. He is a slow skater because he is big, but hes not big enough to completely protect the puck against NHL defensemen. I honestly think he just needs to gain muscle/size to be extremely effective and there won't be a difference doing that for the Flyers or for the Voltiguers.

As for his last season, I can't completely argue against you since I wasn't watching QMJHL games at all. I didn't even develop an interest in Couturier until we traded for the pick and even then I didn't think we had a chance to nab him at #8. The kid can play... With more size he will have all the tools necessary to be a powerhouse (more so defensively) but he will put up major points in his future. 96 pts in back to back seasons, with 10 less games than the previous season and he started out with mono. I am no expert on mono, but people say it takes months even a year to fully recover. Not to mention he was a +55 and +62 those two seasons, and playing with far less talent than someone like Huberdeau had. Also, he still had the highest point per game average (1.62 I think?) of any eligable player in his draft year.

My point is, he isn't an ordinary player. The Flyers wouldn't be relying on him, so "rushing" him wouldn't be the same effect as Edmonton rushing RNH this season. RNH is expected to be a leading point person and can only fail at his current level. Couturier is expected to play well defensively and I don't think anyone will be on him for not getting over 40 pts this year.

/endrant Smile