George Prax's picture
Bense's picture

Getting rid of fighting would be the dumbest thing in the world. The truth is, it does exist for a reason and its not just there because it always has been. With the new instigation rules, you might as well get rid of it. You can't have douchebags like Matt Cooke running around doing whatever he wants and then turtleing out of a fight only for his team to get the power play. Let the players enforce the "rules"

George Prax's picture

Fighting may have a place as something reactionary to a dirty hit like Cooke, as you mentioned, defending teammates, etc, but goons and stage fighters are completely irrelevant. They need to be cut out of the game and the deterrent needs to be against fighting as a whole for that to happen. People can still fight, they just get kicked out of the game if they do. To me, that would make every fight count.

Phil T's picture

I agree that staged fights need to go. Back in the days you didn't have a goon in the lineup who's sole purpose what to fight; they all knew how to play hockey to a certain extent.

Rob McGowan's picture

Fighting stays. Period. Getting rid of it would do more harm than good. This is something I am very strong about. Removing a team's right to police themselves on the ice defeats the attitude of a "team" and will allow star players to get cheap shotted. Guys who fight, when inserted in the line-up, do make a difference. It's been proven with winning record that these players DO HELP THEIR TEAM WIN even if they don't score goals every night. However, a fighter has to be able to assist the team with more than just fists, otherwise they should not be dressed for all 82 games. Don't start instituting ejections for players that fight either, bc then no one will fight at all and the above mentioned will continue to ensue. Bottom line is that the game needs to be left alone. Period.

Patrick Storto's picture

The game doesn't need to be left alone. Probert's brain showed evidence of CTE after he died, caused by concussions. The NHL won't be able to sweep this under the rug for much longer.

Cheap shots will be taken out of the game with heavier suspensions and fines, not with punches. Staged fights are an embarassment to the game.

Rob McGowan's picture

My argument is guys like Probert don't exist anymore in a full time role. Generally speaking, if you want to fight, you have to play the game too. I don't see nearly as many players going forward, who fight, suffering from CTE or other TBA's...cheap shots and fighting are two completely different cases. And I wasn't addressing staged fights, just fighting in general. I personally enjoy watching all fights...but I can clearly understand and relate to people wanting to have that part of the game removed - just not fighting as a whole.

Patrick Storto's picture

I disagree, there are still quite a few players in the NHL that dress just to fight. Off the top of my head I can think of Konopka, Orr, Parros, Janssen and Mcleod just to name a few. These players possess very little hockey skill other than their ability to fight.

George Prax's picture

Disregarding the "leader" argument, I'll give you all those guys except for Konopka. He's actually a very good 4th line hockey player, and he was top 5 in the league in faceoffs last year. That's enough of a contribution to take him off that list (and you're telling this to Rob McGowan of all people lol)